he is lame…any car u plant some bomb in it will blow la…see some movie

I’m not bother anymore, the more they fudge things up, the deeper the grave they are digging, as long as i can effort a better car, they’ll never have my vote, even if i’m poor, i’ll get a perodua, at least thats a toyota underneath.

“It’s just built with no soul, no flair, no passion. It’s like a fridge or washing machine.”

well, you just can’t say that, they all started that way, right? Think of the japanese, koreans, americans and germans too. You have to start with a mass production car, like VW and beetle. His comment is a little bias but I still like JC because he is like that. Cheers!

I think many fatal and non fatal accidents are cause by Proton’s vulnerable car.

that’s because there are more proton cars on the road don’t u think?

eh i can’t say bad stuff ’bout proton coz my bro-in-law works there leh!

Malaysia Classifieds: Erm, the main point is not the car being blown up there.

JoeC: Cheers

Che-Cheh: Hmm, wouldn’t say that’s a good conclusion, but Proton does have vulnerable safety features. Otherwise, Hisyam is right statistically.

Wuching: :X

I always tell most of my friends and parents that Perodua is more like a car design leecher. Even on my recent driving lesson, i feel uncomfortable driving in a Kancil / Kelisa .

yo dude, any ideas for a drop down menu thingy for putting on a sidebar? wanna think of ways to shorten the sidebar contents. Thanks a bunch. Cheers!

Leonard: Perhaps they’re too small?

JoeC: yo! perhaps you could read this or this. If you’re stuck, please refer to me again. Btw, add me to your MSN, contact details in ‘Contact’ page. Cheers!

Why do we have Proton and Perodua? If not, we would be driving a brand new Camry at the price of a Waja.

Jacky: True! Well, Mr. Tun Mahathir wanted it just like he wanted the Twin Tower - to let the world know we’re here.

Singapore doesn’t have a national car and the world’s 2nd tallest building. For a small country, much smaller like Singapore, they still shine brighter. It’s like when people ask where the heck is Malaysia? We would use Singapore and Thailand to point out where we are - in the middle of it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/prog13/perodua.shtml

Go on ‘ave a look.

that’s a good job done JC. big thumbs up. he hates cars which are made by money-hungry corporations. ’nuff said.

I agree with Jacky.

The national cars are just right down ugly and disgusting.

PROTON SHOULD ENHANCE UP THE QUALITY OF THE CAR..NOT USING A VERY CHEAP PLASTIC TO THE INTERIOR..I MEAN THE DASHBOARD…IT EASYLY BROKE OR CRACK….IT IS NECESSARY 4 TUV TO APROVED 2 ALL MODEL OF PROTON??? FOR THE ENGNE PERFRMNCE..4 ME NTHNG 2 COMMENT BOUT IT…THE CAMPRO ENGINE IS AWESOME…NICE JOB FROM PROTON…

It’s so true that the Malaysian cars are not artworks but piece of junks to be burnt in hell.

Ugly test a small cheap car.Shame JC

from the show, it clearly revealed that kelisa is a really tough car, even 4 dynamites can’t even split the car into 2 pieces like ferrari does

with the 1 ton hanging on car pulled by crank, well, kelisa is only weighted 0.75 ton and still managed to handle it well with just bonnet and minor bars fallen out. well done, kelisa

personally, i really like to hear what perodua CEO comments about this? breakthrough revolution? they must loved BALD jeremy clarkson

U never know, BALD J.C gonna loves perodua kancil 660BX even more

Is economic & powerful car with just small cc engine.Among the power of Perodua class.The dynamites had prove Perodua chassic is tough:-)Thank’s by Toyota,Daihatsu & Perodua.Keep on working

i reckon that jeremy should blow up Rover, a british car which is equally rubbish. Worse still, its an expensive piece of junk, burning a bigger hole in consumers pocket.

i dont know how far true when he said that kelisa was made by money hungry corporation, but then such cars are essential in the market so that the bargaining power between the rich and the poor will not be that great disparity, as everyone now will be able to afford a car (bear in mind not everyone are financially secured). My point here however, is not to say that the safety measures of the car should be ignored totally, but I think the car to a certain extent does have some safety measures.

Secondly, Kelisa is still a strong body car, when JC repeatedly hit it with a feaking large hammer, theres no hole created though.

Thirdly, any reasonable car would definitely suffer great damages when such outrageous and insane test are being done.

Fourthly, I think its quite degrading for him to treat cars like that though they can be of not that high quality, but HEY plz man have some respect and integrity to the car, or though not to the car, at least respect some of Kelisa car owners.Im sure those owners will be aware of how strong is the car is.

“It’s just built with no soul, no flair, no passion. It’s like a fridge or washing machine.”

What a nice pickup line, Jeremy. Hell, the Brits build cars with those element and what’s now? All the Brits car industries went six-feet under. Isn’t it ironic? It’s about survivability anyway.

Hi buddies,

Don’t just simply and blatantly condemning Proton and Perodua. Good examples are those Japanese and Korean models, of which had also been copy cats from the entire West.

But now they are now at par with the West, or maybe even better… We have to start from a scratch, like Wright brother initiated their very prototype aicraft, but now it is a hi-tech and multi-billion industry.

Don’t compare us with Singapore or any others, we are what we are.

Did you think if Mahathir did not start with his Proton, Perodua, Twin Towers, etc., you could come up with better models like better than Rolls Royce, Ferrari, or Al-Burj(future tallest building in Dubai)???

Kindly answer this question and suggest us the better alternatives…

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Please don’t condemn Perodua, if the idiot want to prove his point, please buy a british Made Car (If there are still any) and subject it to similar test. Then we will see.

What more do you expect from a car that is selling less than 5000 pound.

any car will be ‘hancur’ if he do something like that..

This video says alot more about the deteriorating state of Jeremy Clarkson’s mental health than it does about Malaysian cars. My brother from the UK was holidaying in Malaysia when I emailed him a link to this page. Here is his response:

“I will keep this quick - I watched the Clarkson clip and was pretty appalled. What kind of message is this sending out to all the boy racer
thugs (which the UK is now full of) on Top Gear? OK, this is a pretty basic car but over here the streets are full of them and for many, it’s all they can afford. He talks about it being a product of a Corporation that simply
wants to make money. My suspicion is the profit margins on these are tiny compared with those of the BMW, Mercs and Porsches he aspires to so much. OK the car isn’t that good, but that’s no reason to indulge in pointless destruction. Leave that to the Israelis…”

While I found the video to be quite hilarious when I saw it, I have to disagree with his claim that Malaysian cars are built with no soul, etc. Malaysian cars were not designed purely for money. It exist to give Malaysians a vision, a hope. It’s not merely that we want to be known, we want to also improve. A journey of a thousand miles still begin with the first step. The Kelisa is our first step.

I think the point of the video was not to test the Kelisa like many of the comments above. It was to degrade Malaysian cars as a whole. And to that, I feel that JC was disrespectful to all Malaysians. He did not just blow the car up with 4 dynamites and a match, he is trying to undermine what the Malaysians had strove to accomplish… just like the Brits have done in Malaysia about 50 years ago.

Give us a chance. Condemn if you will, but do it respectfully. We’ll get there one day.

I believe Jin’s right to a certain extent. The manufacturer first built Proton to give Malaysians a ‘vision, and hope’, I suppose it was true.

However throughout the years Proton didn’t improve and couldn’t compete globally due to the crutches offered by the govt. In the name of National Interest.

We all suffer as a result of this. Proton, save for the first generation Saga, are really simply ‘temporary solutions’ for most people. These cars have a lifespan where after a certain number of years the problems the car gives you would make you contemplate buying a new car - and because of the protection by govt, your ‘new’ car will also most likely to be another Proton.

if JC want to blame Perodua, he must study first who are the 51% share intake on Perodua, which are Toyota & Daihatsu.

On the Proton hand, yeap they still sell the 21-years old technology Saga Iswara model. And Proton car have worst quality & assemble than Perodua.

whoever made the designs of the cars sounds like they need help.

whoever approved of the designs need bigger help.

whoever nodded the entire plan to start production needs the most help of them all.

lets extend a helping hand for the retarded ,weak and handicapped people of malaysia.

yeah… i agree with the comment… although i am a Malaysian, i a really shame of the a tiny renovation of Malaysian cars… it is so minor… i will think more than twice to buy a Malaysian cars.. the cars was rubbish.. but i love the Proton Perdana and Produa MYvi…. it’s very great… if you want to buy a Malaysian car… just buy that cars and you wont regret..

We are proud to be MALAYSIAN, but our national product– the Proton cars are like pieces of junks that are joint together !!!Do our country’s leaders called it our national CAR ?These Proton cars should be call the ‘unwanted scraps from Japan’ It is really a shame to our country !!!Hopefully the goverment will call a stop to this coconut project !
Malaysia bolih !!!

Hi Proton, do you think ALL the Malaysian are so stupid to purchase conbined junks –Proton from you ? At least there is another alternative i.e Produa which produced true cars for us !!!!!Even foreign partners dare not cooperate with you !SHAME ON YOU !

Lousy Prton cars !

hey you stupid Jeremy,
dont drive our cars anymore go drive your mama’s washing machine!!.

guys don’t be like that! look oversea people condemn our product!!!
hey you think jaguar is a good car… for me is a piece of sh*t go to bankrupt and take over by Ford!.

if you have a brain, no matter proton or perodua we just start the automotive field in just 20years! and our first production car come with aircond, radio cassette player, automatic power window and etc (that is our first!!)

and at your country (Britain no brain) your first production car come without roof, bloody stupid engine, stupid tyre without rubber, and all is junk and that is your country’s first car!

I’m proud with my country and my nation product even they make it from piece of junk but at least we can! we can!.

I’m rather be kamikaze drive proton or produa fit with dynamite and then hit you Jeremy. you condemn our car mean you condemn our country!!!!!

Im strongly agree with u Lee Keh Hoo.. their Lotus also end up with bankruptcy but then bought by Proton.

hey u all Malaysians!! plz wake up! if want to condemn our products go to the other countries and be their citizens. u should be ashamed to be Malaysian. it’s the same like u eat your mom’s tatseless food. do u have the heart to condemn your mom’? maybe u can say something but which approaches? or u r brat little children scold your mama just like that??

dont u realize to do R&D for new car merely to RM1 BILLION!! how to gain that much capital?? think for yourselves. all that u guys know is to blame, nag, complain, condemn but never give support. if our country in war with those evil countries, u guys run first or be their stupid monkey or dog for sure.

why dont u people never realize something?? if u really love to be in singapura kurang ajar, never peace THAIland with corrupt minister, three gay stooges usa,britain,australia.. go there! PROUD MALAYSIAN will never accept who’s never PROUD TO BE MALAYSIAN AND PROUD TO USE MALAYSIAN PRODUCTS!!!

Lee Keh Hoo: Our first car comes with aircon and roof whereas the british ones do not??

That comment is kinda stupid. I mean come on, would you laugh at HP or IBM for building computers the size of a room back during the dawn of the computer age?

When Proton came into the car market, these things were already the norm, were the Brits car of the 80s without roof or wheels without rubber? (fyi: by tyres we usually mean with rubber, your saying of “stupid tyre without rubber” is like saying kaya bun without bun! Now that is dumb.)

It seems both Lee and Johorian do not understand the importance of time frame. I concur that all car makers start small, the Jap made rubbish cars, the americans still do. But the fact is the playing field had changed now. 20 years ago, all the automakers were relatively small. But look at it now, many company have merged to enjoy economy of scale, their “RM 1billion R&D cost” can be spread over 4 or 5 models. Proton!? haha…

And then you consider the fact that their cars are sold internationally which further drives the cost per unit down.

I was as excited as many Malaysian when the Proton Saga was first launched, I even defended the car against the criticism of my friends overseas. But 20 years have elasped, I no longer care to defend Proton.

I know that a company has many different aim, some are socialistic (the original VW and FIAT), some are done for passion (the original Ferrari and Bugatti), some are done to spite rivals (Lambo). Proton was originally in the socialistic category, and for this reason I was totally for the protectionist policies put in place to build up the company. But 20 years on, has it fulfilled its socialistic roles?

I believe that is plain to see. NO! In fact in became the antithesis of its original aim. Malaysians are forced to buy poorly made cars that are lacking in the most basic safety features of today’s sophisticated cars. This is totally unacceptable!

I am proud of Malaysian products, in fact I send Malaysian products to my friends overseas. But Proton…. I urge Lee and Johorian to bring their brains when they look at questions. My surname is Lee, and I am from Johor as well. So please, do not condemn others without justification. I am open to fire, so shoot if you want.

Cheers Alvin Lee

walao weh… is this a cummulation of bunch of anti national made thingie… shame on you people. so rich meh?? you see the national car price la… dun compare with those hundred thousands imported car! remember this relation> “the higher the price the better the quality”

jeremy clarkson must be really weak or the kelisa is damn strong for it size right…… quite impressive to see the kelisa to hold up to such torture. I think we should thanks Jeremy Clarkson because instead of condemning Perodua Kelisa he manage to prove that Perodua Kelisa Is quite strong and can take a beating. Even my friend in U.K says he was impressed by the Kelisa strenght after he saw the show. He never even know about the Perodua Kelisa before that. So see. hahahahaha. Stupid Jeremy. Thank you for advertising Perodua Kelisa and prove it’s durability in U.K

To any Malaysian who are stupid enough to condemn any Malaysian Product. To condemn Malaysian Products you must remember that they are made by Malaysian. And We are all Malaysian for the better or the worse. To say a Malaysian Product have no Quality means to say a Malaysian worker is lazy. So aren’t we all Malaysian Worker. So are you a lazy Malaysian workers?…….. If we want Proton and Perodua to change. The Malaysian people should change our attitude as a whole because our national car industry are a mere reflection on what is Malaysian Style means. It is our very own reflection we are looking at. That is how we run our business, life and country. To Condemn Malaysian Product is to condemn Malaysian. To Condemn Malaysian is to condemn yourself. What kind of a person condemn themself can you please tell me. If you are ashamed to be a Malaysian, Go change your Nationality and see which country will accept you and your silly attitude

True Malaysian: Oh my, you reminded me of Badruddin Amiruldin, “You take suka, you keluar dari Malaysia.”

People are voicing out their true feelings about the national car and what they really thought, be it bad or good.

Why do you have to be so harsh to ask someone to change their nationality? or did you just admit defeat of their feedback? as so to ask them to go far away from you.

Alexallied. Don’t get me wrong. It is ok for people to voice out their frustration to our national car industry. But do it in a sensible manner and in a way that can make things better. Some people went overboard in their critics to the point that they condemn the whole nation and all Malaysian in its wake. What is this? No matter how frustrated you are or how angry you are, you must never condemn your own country infront of foreigners. It’s as simple as never scold your own mother infront of your friend laaa.

This page is not visible only to Malaysian in Malaysia. I actually get to know of this page when I’m in S’pore from a S’porean colleague. I was so irked when almost the entire office made a laughing stock out of our country because according to them we are the only country with stoopid enough citizen to condemn their own country, it’s people and it’s product openly by themself. S’porean look down at Malaysian if you didn’t notice. they think they are more superior than Malaysian. I would love to remind them that they are drinking recycle sewage water if not because we supply them water at ultra cheap cost from johor. the japanese use to make sucky cars when they first started in mid 50’s but you will never hear any japanese condemn their own products. It is called NATIONAL PRIDE. look at china and their cheap and low Quality car. do you hear anything from China???. Those gas guzzler of Korea aren’t much better then Proton or Perodua(I use to own a Spectra) and Daewoo have went under.

You guys have to remember that our Proton is just 20yrs old and perodua is just a teenager. Give them chance to mature and learn from it mistake. Honda took 30 years with a lot of errors if you didn’t know. They almost didn’t make it if not because of the early Civic. Proton I believe have finally realize it mistake and taking steps to rectify things up. Look at persona. Even though it’s just a sedan version of Gen2 go and check it’s build quality. I found out that after Savvy proton have finally admitted and deal with it low quality material. None of my friend that bought a Gen2 after this period have any complaint or Problem. So any true Malaysian will by now stop it’s blind rage and be more sensible and do quality check. don’t simply blindly blurt out your rage and frustration. Check if our national car industry is taking the right steps for improvements or not. If they do, please support them. If Malaysian do not support Malaysia, Who will???

Proton themself causes it’s own downfall but it is Malaysian who actually make it happen and promote it to the world. Only Malaysian themself have the power to change the way world see their country and themself. as I posted earlier “If we want Proton and Perodua to change. The Malaysian people should change our attitude as a whole because our national car industry are a mere reflection on what is Malaysian Style means. It is our very own reflection we are looking at. That is how we run our business, life and country. To Condemn Malaysian Product is to condemn Malaysian. To Condemn Malaysian is to condemn yourself”.

For those who are still blind hardcore condemner who think imported stuff are better. Please go abroad for atleast 1 year. don’t have to go as far as to UK as I did. Just go to singapore. S’porean believe in every sense that they are good Quality people and more superior in everyway they think they shit smell nice. do you know that.

SO MALAYSIAN. PLEASE HAVE SOME NATIONAL PRIDE

Well, that fellow is a British he has all the mind of colonial era . Projudice. To him all made in England are better. Bullshit! Why waste money on mini-cooper liked Produa Kelissa. Why dont you buy back your Lotus . Well, technologically British is no where now day. We can match them

well from what i have reead from you guys have open my mind. hhmm.. base on my research,i found that when the proton wira was going to published, some of its engineer were working in japan(mitsbishi corp). when they came back they made a promise that during the contract whatever idea that came from malaysian engineer that time, half of it must be to mitsubshi. that’s why most of all proton product is from mitsubishi. to tell you the truth, mitsubishi took malaysian idea of proton wira and enhance it and made their own mitsubishi lancer. look at the time frame of the lancer production and the proton wira. for produa, malaysian took most of the chasis and technology from Toyota and Daihatsu. kelisa is from coure l7 (four door) if JC is to condemn produa he should made a research first, the difference in kelisa is the engine, exterior and the all-wheel drive. to make things clear, he is condemning malaysian because he is afraid of the japanese due to their modern product nowadays which is better the west. challange JC to do the same thing with Coure l7 and see if result. what is his opinion this time. Scared to condemn JC? look i’m not malaysian but from the fact that malaysians are condemning their own countries product?. Quiet lame. why don’t you gave some ideas on how to enhance your country’s product? not to condemn it. know why the proton is lack of ideas? it’s because they are still with mitsubishi, they want to make money to produce their own idea when the contract is over. look at their all new proton saga (2008). it looks promising to me because the contract with mitsu is over. right malaysians? now lets hope to see their own creativity on making automobile products. Gambatte ne….

I do agree JC, also do agree those defend our own nation car. Although our nation car condemn by other like rubbish, but still it a good start for our nation car industry. When times goes on by the way the making the profit (in some rubbish agreement to protect local made car by some horsy), i guess its already past few years, these period enough to learn, self-motovating and comon at least develop a new era of technolgy, not simply come out new model with crappy safety feature (i talking about POTONG). Imagine those crappy safety features and the peoples who sacrifice in road accident just because of lacking safety feature, i would rather buy a junk car with at least air bag and solid chasis, than multi million car with luxurious dashboard, over complicated electronic devices, over power car burning unecessary fuels and etc. Beat me i dont care how much powerful your car, you have to survive in future world without PETROLEUM, maybe your son grandson just cycle on bike in future who would know……….:P

yo. Jason, do you read the news? do you know that the world is developing for a new type of fuel which is called BIODIESEL? man, read the news and follow the update. look, long ago people thought flying was impossible but look, can you count how many planes are up there in the sky nowadays? Just don’t underestimated the future’s technologies. Bout the Malaysian car, just give them time to built confidence and ideas. they are trying to keep up with the latest technology dow. like the oldies usually say: HAVE FAITH!

does any people know what cars in malaysia are better performance than toyota cars?